Collectively Connected

003 - Assassination Attempt or Staged Spectacle? Reacting to the Trump Incident

July 31, 2024 • Damian and Denise • Season 1 • Episode 3

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What if the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump was more theatrical than political? In our latest episode of Collectively Connected, we unpack the shocking events surrounding this incident. We share our initial reactions and disbelief, unraveling the chaotic scene that unfolded and questioning whether the attempt might have been a staged spectacle. Analyzing the behavior of the crowd and the seemingly disorganized response of the Secret Service, we explore the unsettling reality of political violence in our current climate.

Who stands to gain from such a dramatic episode? We probe the potential motives behind the attack and spotlight Thomas Matthew Croks, the alleged perpetrator. Could this event be part of a larger scheme, or did Croks act alone? We also consider how the incident might play into Trump's hands, rallying his supporters and solidifying his tough persona. Drawing parallels to historical moments like the Kennedy assassination, we aim to provide a deeper context and implications for the upcoming election. Personal reflections on our political environment add layers to this critical conversation.

Our discussion broadens to the disturbing trend of political corruption and voter manipulation. We can't help but express our frustration at a political arena that feeds off division and heightened emotions. By examining the roles of Trump, Kennedy, and Biden, we stress the necessity for unity and rational discourse. Emphasizing the importance of informed voting, we urge listeners to engage in open conversations and gather information from diverse sources. At this pivotal moment in our democracy, staying informed and connected is more crucial than ever. Join us for a compelling episode that underscores the power of active participation in shaping our political landscape.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Collectively Connected, the podcast where we dive into the issues that are shaping our world. I'm Denise and, as always, I'm joined by my co-host and wonderful husband, Damian.

Speaker 2:

Hey everyone, we're thrilled to have you with us today for a very special episode.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Today we're discussing a topic that's been making headlines and stirring up a lot of emotions the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump.

Speaker 2:

It's a heavy subject and there's a lot to unpack, From the immediate reactions to the potential implications for our country's political landscape. We're going to cover it all.

Speaker 1:

We'll be sharing our thoughts, diving into what we know and exploring what this means for the future. So grab a cup of coffee, get get comfortable and let's get into it. Let's get this conversation started, hey, babe. Oh so we're coming together to talk about our thoughts and our feelings, our reaction to what happened yesterday.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is so. This was like I forgot what I was working. I saw the. It was like a breaking news. At first I thought it was like Trump saying something, but it said Trump gets shot. And so that was the first time that I saw what was happening.

Speaker 1:

I clicked it open and it said Trump was shot at a rally in Pennsylvania, and so I was like oh, I know we were on the phone when, I think you came across it and I was driving home from meeting a client of mine and I had not even looked at my phone but me and you were talking and you mentioned that. And then I got home and I got busy, I had another phone call and they saw it afterwards, and more so, today is where I've kind of started diving into it so, since you've dived into it, what have you seen so far?

Speaker 2:

what are your thoughts? With all?

Speaker 1:

of this. I see the shooting. My initial reaction is like, oh my god, somebody attempted to assassinate Trump. Like, wow, I didn't think anything of it. I didn't really spend a lot of time really analyzing or thinking about it. But today, as me and you you're talking about it and I was looking through my feed and the reactions of it could possibly have been a staged assassination attempt. And you know, I remember reading yesterday that somebody was saying if there's a shooting, why aren't these people running? Like why are they staying in place? When you think about any other shooting, any new mass shooting, anywhere people flee, they don't stay to cheer the president on. At least that I wouldn't the fact that nobody ran. You didn't see not one single person that was standing behind them attempt to leave. They just dropped down.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I mean that's what I got today, right that I was reading that, and now it's making me analyze it. Now I'm going back and I'm looking at the video and really analyzing it and kind of saying, well, why, why did they run? Were they all in on it too, which I doubt it. I doubt the people, but I don't know the people that are always like standing behind the president. I don't know who they are, unfortunately. They said somebody got shot and died, I I think after doing that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do believe that that's what I get when I watch it, when I feel, when I start to ask questions and seeing if the answer of the questions I'm asking are in the video, there's different angles. Who do you think staged it? I think it makes me want to ask who benefits from it, because why would, why would he have to stage something like this trump? I mean, he has to be in on it, you know, because if it's a stage, he's not gonna know that he's about to get shot in the ear or nicked in the ear. It's just interesting because my mind's still kind of like rolling with the possibilities or why, how, who, when, where, what I mean? What are your thoughts? What do you think of the video itself? What were your initial thoughts?

Speaker 2:

of it. Well, my initial thought was holy shit, it's getting real. That's whether you're in politics or not. That's wake up and tune in to whatever's happening, because that doesn't happen too often. Normally it's a big race. Everybody's just talking about the other, so that's usually like okay, we've heard it before. There's nothing really like getting your attention. So that got my attention initially and had me tune in.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying I'm a huge Trump fan, but it's going to get anybody's attention. So when I'm looking in at it, you were saying your perspective is at a stage I was. More I like to look at how did we get here? How did this particularly happen? And so I'm thinking, okay, because Trump was talking, he turned his head slightly, I think, before the shots had gotten fired, and there's a whole bunch of different video angles that I'm looking at.

Speaker 2:

But the first thing I'm thinking is how did the shooter even get up there to even take a shot? What is Secret Service doing? Because when I'm looking at the whole video, there's like four or five guys like huddled around him. But the first thing that I'm looking at is like you guys look really sloppy. Yeah, they really did. I'm not a Secret Service guy, but I know how things need to get done and should get done, and had I been in Secret Service, if I was a captain or the main person in charge, I would say you guys were all fired. You guys look like shit out there, you look like garbage and you look like you don't really know what to do if a situation like this happens. I saw a lot of confusion and that was kind of really disappointing to see and once again, I'm not defending Trump at all, I'm just talking about how we got here.

Speaker 1:

So that's number one that I saw the secret service just looked like a hodge podge of just amateurs out there. Well, and they they left them so exposed so many times for, like, when you think about seconds or however long, it just seemed like a lot of time where he's just hanging in between and they're trying to put arms up.

Speaker 2:

But they weren't in no rush, it didn't seem like yeah, when it came to protecting a president, I'm not even secret service, but I would think my initial thought should be you contain the president, get him out there asap. He should have been rushed off that stage within seconds, with bodies all around him shielding him, and you're slowly walking towards an armored vehicle.

Speaker 1:

That should all happen within a couple of minutes, is what I would have expected, not even a couple of minutes. The truck was right there. The truck was right there.

Speaker 2:

So I just felt for Trump to kind of sit there and throw his fist out. He got a huge round of applause for that and I get it. You're going to really rally a lot of people, but why are they?

Speaker 1:

people just got shot and we're we're sitting here paying attention to how trump is reacting to it and not worried about our own lives yeah you know that's kind of like. I guess I'm looking at it from somebody in the state because I've had gone to rallies before I it's. I don't know that we would all be standing there cheering kennedy on or on or Biden on if they just got shot out. I'm sorry. If I'm there with my family, my kids, I'm looking at my kids.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

I'm worried about them, their safety and how do I get them out of here?

Speaker 2:

So here's another angle to throw at you. I was looking at an interview and there was a guy that was actually saying that they saw a man with a rifle going and scaling a building. They said that they had contacted police and the police were almost acting like they didn't know what he was talking about, Like they looked no it was a person in the crowd.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was a regular person.

Speaker 2:

He was telling the police and I think even the Secret Service, were just acting like, acting like they don't really even know what's going on.

Speaker 2:

And for me that's really hard to comprehend that you guys, number one, you would allow an opening like that for some random guy to scale a building, pull out his rifle and start taking shots. I was looking at the angle of where the rally was and where the Secret Service was. I think they have like counter-sn snappers that are always kind of looking for buildings and it's like you guys didn't. You guys didn't have anybody on this perfectly scaled building that has a clear line of shot, you know, for trump, and you guys didn't have anybody over there. Like that's really hard to really kind of comprehend and you guys are supposed to be the best of the best, your secret service that's a colossal failure for one. So I get your angle where, if it was an inside job and all of a sudden they're looking the other way and especially if there's a trump supporter saying, hey guys, pointing to a building, this guy's crawling up with a rifle and he's watching it happen and nobody's doing anything about it, that's really that's a tough pill to swallow and he said it.

Speaker 1:

He was there for like three minutes. Three pointing at this guy telling me like a lot. Three minutes is a long time when something like this is going down, it's a long time. So and so who benefits from this? If it is rigged, that Secret Service is looking sloppy and he has time to fist pump and be totally exposed and the crowd is cheering for him, who benefits from this? If this was staged, why would they stage something like this and kill somebody in the process? Because somebody did die?

Speaker 2:

There was a couple that were critically wounded as well, from what I had seen, at least, and we haven't even brought up the shooter himself, who was a 20 year old kid.

Speaker 1:

Has he practiced shooting before? What do we know about this guy At this point? They probably know everything and Share it with us.

Speaker 2:

We have a right to know. That's definitely something the American people should be. When was the gun bought?

Speaker 1:

Has he done shooting at this range before? Or did he just purchase the gun and was he on any medications? Because sometimes that stuff messes with their brain, because some of the school shooting shooters they were on I don't know Adderall or some kind of medication. So I'm curious to know if he was on anything?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so his mental state, his background I think that's definitely something that they should look into a lot. Was that his gun? Was that a parent's gun? Does he have training? You don't just get a gun and all of a sudden you have a perfect line of sight within a couple of minutes on a rooftop and you're taking pretty good shots. Do you have a background in shooting? Those are some questions that I think people should really want to look into.

Speaker 1:

But, once again, and who had him do it. Or did he do it because of his own. What is he? Is he a Biden supporter, a radical Biden supporter?

Speaker 2:

So now we get into motive. What would drive someone to want to do that? I think that's what comes to. We have such a I don't want to call it a hatred, but I just feel like the party opposition with Democrats and Republicans. It seems like it's just getting more and more tense like the divide, yeah, that, that divide that they're that's going on it's almost like I hear these words in articles and people are using disgusting and just threat to democracy like all of these really tough words you are.

Speaker 1:

You are big with the words. Look how strong of like the adjective are you exactly and, and.

Speaker 2:

So if you are, let's say, a 19 year old kid, doesn't have a lot going on 20 year old kid, and you're hearing these words, it's going to make you feel some kind of way. Let's say you were picked on when high school or something like that, and I'm just, this is all theoretical stuff. But let's say you were a biden supporter and they're throwing these words around that trump is just going to destroy the country. Here's some kids saying well, I can't let that happen, I'm going to take them out. Maybe we'll get more information as they start releasing that. I don't know much about the person, I'm just throwing some theories out there but you did check out in his social media it was it was.

Speaker 2:

I tried to it was it was thomas matthew cooks. Okay, it was. Thomas Matthew.

Speaker 1:

Cooks, cooks, cooks Cooks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, c-r-o-k-s.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was one of those.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure they'll be really sell over the place and stuff. But that page was private, so not really much information. I didn't get a chance to look into it in depth, so I just wanted to talk about my initial reactions. But yeah, like I said, to have him, even if he was out of his mind and wanting to take things into his own hands, secret Service couldn't thwart a 20 year old kid. Hold on, guys.

Speaker 1:

Who was exposed with his rifle on a rooftop Crawling up a ladder to get to the roof of a building. Is that that's?

Speaker 2:

what happened right. While somebody's pointing them out Saying there's a guy with a gun over here for three to five minutes before the shots were fired and you guys just didn't react to that. What was going on? What was going on, what was more important to?

Speaker 1:

make sure the president doesn't get shot. Yeah so that to me it just seems very comical it does like, when you really start to like paint the picture from all these angles, it's almost laughable. I shouldn't say that, because somebody did lose their life and there's been people, there's injured people, so I shouldn't say that. But yeah, so I'll stop there, because I think the big question is who benefits from this and why? What would they get out of it?

Speaker 2:

right, well, you kept saying who benefits? This is a shooting. So I'm I'm trying to look at it from a couple of other, different angles. Was the intent to make an attempt to to rally people behind trump, and if so, then he's a pretty good shot. Then if it was just meant to have a grazing bullet because there's probably professional snipers out there that yeah, I can just raise your ear. It'll make it look like some action, like I was trying to get to you, but you're not really going to suffer much damage. It's a couple of stitches and you'll be right back to work the next day. So that's a highly professional type of act. I don't know who this kid is, but if, like you were saying, if it is because if somebody's actually trying to take him out, you hit him in the chest and you're going down Say he wasn't skilled.

Speaker 1:

Was that a failed attempt on his end, or is he just a?

Speaker 2:

fall guy or just bigger name people. You can even look at the Kennedy assassination in 1968, you know of how that was and really diving into that sniper that took him out, I think, from the bridge and I think that guy was like a fall guy or he was put up to by other people and that's a whole different wormhole that people can or can't go down. But is this kid acting alone? Did he tell somebody? Did he? Does he have a group of people? There's a lot of different questions that can really go up from there. Initially, I would say to answer your question, who benefits? I would say Trump benefits from this because him having that fist out in the air, he's rallying. If people weren't already rallying behind them, people were really rallying behind saying this guy's a gangster, he survived, he's a convicted felon, got shot at still walking. You know, a lot of people would really rally behind that message.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're saying that Trump benefits from this because he'll get a lot of people thinking, oh yeah, you're badass.

Speaker 2:

Tough.

Speaker 1:

You're tough and you're, you know. But so for what? To get more votes? To get more. To get his people, his trumpsters, like solid trump's, like he. You're not going nowhere. You love this guy. He took a bullet for you, right? Is it to anchor those voters down? It is a rally, that's what rallies are meant for.

Speaker 2:

That's what all rallies are meant for. Where else would it go down?

Speaker 1:

This person wasn't breaking into his home, trying to do it quietly into the night.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and that's a different story. There you go, so it's like if it's going to be that way, then they wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

You want to go into his home where there's not really many people around unless you're trying to rally get, get, get a good rally that a lot of people are watching, yeah, so, yeah, that's interesting. So I from this just happened yesterday me and you are just kind of trying to like ask questions and see what we've seen so far. If it even answers some of those questions.

Speaker 2:

And I haven't looked into it super heavy, so people might already have answers to these questions. I don't know much about the kid, I just know there was a name that was put out there. Is it him? Is it not him?

Speaker 1:

I don't know yeah but at the end of the day, this isn't our job either.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not an investigative attorney.

Speaker 1:

We're just sitting here sharing the conversation that we're having about this in our home. What's happening? How does it make you feel Like, from seeing this, this guy is running for the president of the united states. There's a lot of drama going on in the united states. Everybody knows that the world is watching and, like, how does it make you feel that there's an attempt on it, even though you're not a trumpster and you're not pro-trump, you don't hate him, but I don't know if he's going to get your vote right? You know we love what Kennedy stands for and so I believe that's where our votes are going right. But there's still four months left, so we'll see.

Speaker 1:

But how does that feel, knowing that there's that, just that attempt for for trump if there's a, there's been possible attempts for kennedy like how do you feel that people are trying to kill people who are running for the president and out of? And is this happening to biden? Because if it ain't happening to biden, it's like, well, if it's happening to the other two major players here, like we spoke about before, there's plenty other people, but these are the three major players to actually get into the white house right and if there's an attempt on trump and there's an attempt on kennedy, but no attempt on biden, it almost makes you it's like and he with what happened during the debate too, he's, he knows he's not going to win.

Speaker 1:

I mean, all the polls show him not winning. But also I also believe that Trump and Biden are one of the same. So if this is a rigged thing for their, that the establishment with this, which is both red and blue, which is both Democrat and Republican, staging this, it's almost like to get more of these votes so that Kennedy doesn't have a chance. But the fact that we're seeing that the potential staging is it's rigged Like are we being duped here? Are we trying? Oh, you guys are just a bunch of idiots. But going back to my initial question, how does that make you feel to know that this is happening in our country?

Speaker 2:

at this time, I would probably say disappointed. My initial reaction which I think is most initial reactions is anger, and I feel like anger is fueling a lot of everything of what's going on. When I look at just how Trump talks to his followers, I feel like he's really good at revving people up, and sometimes it's not in a positive way, and I feel like a lot of his supporters they can get very itchy, itchy for action. You know, like we're the kind of people who we don't play, we don't F around, we're going to get stuff done. The tough guys like rally behind Trump, and I feel like he rallies behind that, and so I would think that, with this happening, those type of supporters would really tap into that anger as their initial reaction.

Speaker 2:

You asked me what mine is, and so that's why I didn't want to say angry, because I could see how it would be a perfectly normal reaction to be angry at what happened. That's your guy, that's my president, that's my guy, I was going to vote for this guy. You're not going to take out my guy, and so I feel like that's is that the kind of people in society that we want to become is leading by that reaction. I say disappointed, because the fact that, once again, how we've gotten here, that we're going back into another cycle of anger, now it's the left did this, or the left are behind that, or whoever you're going to blame people, are going to blame somebody and people are going to come out in droves to blame someone.

Speaker 1:

It's like they're trying to take advantage of this heightened emotional state of the country and the world. I mean, there's so much going on around the world, Exactly, but in our country it's almost like how do we rev them up a little more?

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

How do we make them more angry? Because obviously Republicans are going to think Democrats did it, because obviously Republicans are going to think Democrats didn't.

Speaker 2:

And so more of this divide, more of this separation, getting farther and farther from each other, when really we have to be going the opposite way, absolutely, and I think that's why I said disappointment, because when I look at where we're trying to go, where we should be going as a people, be going as a people, as citizens, as a country, we should be leading with love and unity, but it seems like we're gonna be taking another step back. So that's why I said disappointed, because, with where the country should be going, with exposing what's really going on, the corruption that's really going on now, there's going to be a lot more fighting amongst ourselves, less communicating, and when you're angry, you're not very likely to listen to reason, and so that's a really strong emotion to lead by. Nobody makes great decisions when they're angry. Nobody makes rational citizens, nobody's a critically thinking. You make very poor-based judgments out of anger, and so if the majority are leading with that emotion, it's worrisome and it's troubling, but I think overall, to answer your question, it's just disappointing that this happened.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's really unfortunate Because, like I said, we need to be going the opposite direction. We need to be coming together because right now we're at a crossroads, we really are. We're at this major crossroads and how are we going to choose to respond and react to what took place, to what took place? Are we gonna get more angry, more divided, more broken, more difficult to have conversations, less listening? Are we gonna hold on? What are these people saying about my guy? What are these people saying that he wouldn't have read this, he wouldn't have faked an assassination attempt? What do you have? And again, you'll be individually at a crossroads. We're at a crossroads, collectively, in the united states, worldly or everywhere. We're at a crossroads.

Speaker 1:

Are you going to allow your ego to hinder the possibility of seeing the truth or are you going to allow your ego to help you to see the truth? Which one are you going to entertain? Because the ego needs to be entertained, whether good or bad. That's it. Which one are you going to choose entertained good or bad? It's weird. Which one are you gonna choose? We're just at a really big crossroads. Say this is rape, it is this fake assassination as people. Okay, clearly you're just trying to get our votes. Why so so drastic? For one, is it because your words, you guys, are feeling like, aren't working anymore and so you have to do this big ploy to anchor down more people to just vote for you, for a shallow sense, because you almost died. I'm just still trying to wrap my head around it. Obviously you can hear me through, like trying to just get out my thoughts.

Speaker 2:

It's an interesting perspective. At first I wasn't. I didn't know if I was in complete agreeance that it would. You know you had first said that it was rigged. But the more you've been explaining it and you gotta think of what does the average person do? Or think what does the average person. So if you're the average person, you're trying to get a vote. I need votes. If I'm a president, I need your vote. And if you're on the fence, what can I do to get your vote hold?

Speaker 1:

on. I'm gonna stop you right there, because it isn't just for a vote we're talking about. We have this dual party who are made up of a bunch of billion. You know. They, these people run the world, and these corporations. They don't want their time to come to an end, and biden and trump represent these corporations, these establishments big oil, big energy, big ag list goes on right. That's what these two people represent, and kennery represents us, the people. And so it's not just votes here, it's complete life changing is what we're voting for? More corruption, more taxes, more crime, more war, more bad food, more Trump or Biden, pick one, it does, it doesn't really make a difference or Kennedy, who is? We're going to clean the air, we're going to clean the water, we're going to clean our food, we're going to clean this corruption. We're going to take our country back. And they're losing these corporations, this establishment red and blue. They're losing Huge, wow. It's really drastic measures, because they haven't been able to take Kennedy out With their attempts. So it's like what else can we?

Speaker 2:

do. Yeah, they haven't been able to get to Kennedy Number one. He hasn't been able to get Secret Service. Biden's been denying that for a while, so he's been using a private security detail. That's basically powered by the people. We're big donors.

Speaker 1:

for that I think we should worry if he got secret service. Because we can't have a failure like that Absolutely not. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:

We'd rather you keep the secret service Because, to be honest, I keep going back to that and that's one of the things that made me angry those. We'd rather you keep the Secret Service because, to be honest, I keep going back to that and that's one of the things that made me angry. Those guys looked very incompetent and if you're Secret Service, you should have a very good plan and this should be very well rehearsed, because you guys are the best of the best.

Speaker 1:

They seem very men in black with their sunglasses on.

Speaker 2:

It looked kind of corny to me. And if you are protecting the most important person, you better be running an efficient operation here. Because I'm talking, you've got police officers, you've got SWAT, you've got special forces and you've got Secret Service. And if this is the best of the best and you guys look like it's your first day on the job, that's unacceptable. But yeah, to echo with what you were saying, something drastic would have to happen, because if there is an establishment and if it is a uniparty system, as Kennedy points out a lot, there's a lot of corruption. It doesn't necessarily matter who you're going to get, they both represent the same master. And so, with that being said, if there are more and more people that are starting to warm up to Kennedy because I believe, especially post-debate, kennedy on the real debate, after hosting the real debate, gained a lot of followers.

Speaker 2:

So I would have said, leading up to this event, that Kennedy probably had a lot more momentum, just naturally, on his side following the debate. Biden clearly was not. He had lost quite a few steps. I would say trump was number two and I would say kennedy is who stole the show when it came to the debate. So if you are a uniparty, the establishment corruptions corporation, whatever you want to call them, if you are them and you're saying, okay, we can't have a bunch more people following this guy, we need something big, something real big, like we need to shake some things up around here, because a couple of speeches here and there is just not going to be winning people over, especially since we had a nationally televised debate and kennedy broke the record for debate views.

Speaker 2:

I think it was on x as well. Well, I forgot how many views he had, but either way, the momentum, I would say, was on his side. So if I'm the bad guys, I'm like, okay, what could we do to absolutely steal this show? What can we do to shake things up so much that one of our guys, any guy, gets the attention back on him? So now that you brought that up, I'm going to lean to where you said it could be rigged. Most people right now are leading by anger, so they're not even seeing that part of the puzzle right now, because, once again, that leading emotion of anger is going to block your critical thinking, it's going to block your rationale and you're out for blood, and so you're not even getting this far to get this deeper into the conversation.

Speaker 1:

And that's really unfortunate, because now I was asking a question. It's like now, what do we do, as people Say it is rigged? Right, like I started say it is rigged and I think it's important to really look into what these guys are talking about. I think the time for I don't think my vote matters, the time for it's a wasted vote, now is the time where start looking at it, start talking to people about what they know, because you can get pieces of information just through people, through your peers, your neighbors, your friends. Like don't make it an argument, make it an informational. Like you're collecting data, take it as that, like you're out just trying to collect data so that you, come election day, you can make the best educated decision. Because every vote matters more than ever in this election Because, like I said, said we're not picking just democrat and republic and we're picking a way of living from here on out, because it can get worse or it can turn into heaven, or at least we could start to make it that way.

Speaker 1:

That's what we're voting for. We're just not voting for men anymore, a party or whatever. We're not. We're voting for a way of life. I think that's what we can do. Start to care. We are starting just to really talk about these things, have a conversation and really understand what's going on, be in the know, because if you're in the know about what celebrity is marrying what celebrity and the latest movie and that's coming out, all this stuff, that stuff doesn't matter, don't? Knowing that knowledge isn't gonna change your life. But knowing this knowledge, knowing the knowledge of how important your vote matters, and the knowledge of and desiring to go seek out what these people actually will do for you, that is knowledge you need to know for your well-being, for your life, life, for your way of living. You should care that much.

Speaker 2:

It's at least worthy of your attention leading up to this election. It's worthy of your attention to look into every candidate and we've said this before looking into every candidate, not even just your guy. Everybody likes to have their guy and not want to see or look into anybody else. I'm still looking into what Trump has to say.

Speaker 1:

I'm a candidate supporter, I still want to hear what Trump has to say.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, me too. I still want to hear what Biden has to say yeah yeah. There's other candidates out there as well. I still want to hear what they have to say.

Speaker 1:

Because I think it's important to give them that kind of attention, because your life does depend on it. What are they saying? Is what kennedy's saying right? Is what biden's saying right or there? And there's no real right or wrong way. There's good and bad ways, you know. And which one is doing what resonates with me? Which one is painting that picture of a future that I see myself living in? And I'm going to continue to say this throughout our podcast, because there's a world that I envision living in and everybody envisions living in. We just have to ask ourselves is that what we're currently living in? Because we're putting the power in these guys's hands to have a say in what that world looks like. So I think it's important that we have to start asking ourselves what do we want our world to look like? Thank you for taking the time to listen to. Collectively connected with me, denise and my husband, damien. Remember. Remember to subscribe, share and join the conversation Until next time. Stay connected, my friends. Thank you.