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008 - Trump’s Next Move - Inside the Early Cabinet Strategy

• Damian and Denise • Season 1 • Episode 8

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Could private donors be shaping the future of Trump's potential next term? Join us as Robert Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard offer an insider's perspective from a Michigan rally on the unprecedented moves being made to build Trump's cabinet from the ground up. With over 16,000 positions at stake, the duo discusses the influence of lobbyists and politicians during Trump's first term and his groundbreaking strategy to preemptively tackle national issues. High-profile personalities like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are reportedly in the mix, hinting at a robust team ready to challenge the status quo.

Our exploration doesn't stop there. We tackle the thorny issue of political polarization, dissecting how the public's perception of figures like Kamala Harris and Donald Trump can be so polarized. Immigration policy – from "catch and return" to "catch and release" – serves as a backdrop for a broader conversation about the complexities of mass deportation and the tightrope of political correctness. The discussion expands to recent legislative decisions, illustrating the nation's deep divides and the critical need to challenge government narratives and potential corruption.

Transparency—or the lack thereof—in political leadership takes center stage as we compare the public engagement of Trump and Harris. With the election clock ticking, we question the timing of political maneuvers and visits to contentious regions, like the border, as well as the impact of these actions on voter sentiment. Kennedy and Gabbard's optimistic statements inspire us to stress the power of early voting and the imperative of making informed choices, ensuring that every voice is magnified in shaping the nation's future, rain or shine.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, babe, hi, whoa. So we just got done watching the former presidential candidate, robert Kennedy's, in Michigan with Tulsi Gabbard and they were doing one of their rallies and Michigan is obviously our home state, right, and so bummed that we couldn't actually make it out there. So bummed but we were watching it live and, man, the drop of some bombshells.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, I know it really gives me hope for the future.

Speaker 1:

Right, so let's talk about that for a second. Kennedy was talking his conversation with President Trump when Trump got appointed the first time. I don't know how to govern people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he didn't know he needed to appoint 16,000 positions. Well, who does he appoint? He wasn't a lifetime politician. Who did he know who did what, where, when, how? He had no idea who did what position and who would be good for these positions. He probably didn't even know what are the positions. That's a lot of positions to have to fill, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm so glad that this had finally come out, because that was something that I was really critical of Trump for a long time and that was where I had a really hard time, and I was talking to a Trump supporter that I had met, you know, a couple of months back. Shout out to.

Speaker 1:

Neil, but that was one of the things that we were talking about was the appointees that Trump had appointed, you know, and those are the people that had put our country in the position it is. I would always think to myself is Trump really a good guy or is he a bad guy? Because you're talking about I would say, you know, you're talking about doing all this stuff like you are a good guy, but who you put in the office were bad guys. Yeah, it shows otherwise, exactly, and so that was the big thing, especially with the COVID shutdown and stuff. So for all of this to happen, for Trump to say that you know, I didn't know who to appoint, and that you have to fill 16,000 cabinet positions within 90 days of being in office, and so that can be super overwhelming. He was saying, you know, I didn't know this guy. They said, okay, appoint this guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he said that he had a bunch of lobbyists and politicians and he didn't know anybody.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, and you don't know who's who. You got a bunch of people in your face, so that made a lot more sense and it helped me to understand. You know President Trump a lot more.

Speaker 2:

And understand his four years in office Exactly. His first four years in office Absolutely, and understanding that after four years I'm sure he got to know who the good guys and who the bad guys are Right and he's probably like, oh, I don't think this is the best. Who has corruption and who doesn't? Exactly.

Speaker 1:

That was huge for me to hear talking about the cabinet positions that you basically have to fill. What he was announcing was a bombshell. He said normally when you're president, you have to basically go out there and find and fill your cabinet positions.

Speaker 2:

And usually that takes place on November 5th. That's where it starts, and I guess there's a certain part of the government that fund that and that's when he starts putting these positions in place.

Speaker 1:

But the bombshell that got dropped was yeah, so he was saying that Trump has been talking to his donors and what they've been basically doing for the first time ever. This has never happened before. He's actually started building his cabinet positions ahead of the election.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so essentially his private donors are funding it to be done early, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So, essentially, you know he would be prepared to hit the ground immediately running with a full new transition team. So you're not having to go out there and have people in your ear. He's been basically already putting that together. Go out there and have people in your ear, he's been basically already putting that together. The second bombshell Kennedy has said that he has entrusted Tulsi Gabbard and Kennedy to help put the transition team together. So they've been having a huge role in building the transition team out and to me, honest, babe, I think that is absolutely huge. That's a game changer right there To talk about that.

Speaker 1:

Especially, I think, from now until the election, there's going to be some big names that are probably being included in this transition team. We've been hearing rumors about Elon Musk, obviously, you know Tulsi Gabbard. I've heard Vivek Ramaswamy some kind of role. We've been hearing about a lot of people rumors, you know, but now that he dropped this kind of bombshell, it's like, oh, so they're probably almost done, they've probably already made assurances. You know that, hey, this is going to be your role, this is what you're going to be doing, and basically, start there, because I'm sure they're going to be gathering together from here until then.

Speaker 2:

of what is it that we need to look at Because they are wanting to go in come January.

Speaker 1:

Let's get this problem solved. Let's go in, we let's get this problem solved.

Speaker 2:

Let's go in. We already have what we need to tackle. We already know our roles. We already know what the problems are, so we can start to fix them. I loved how he explained that, being an environmental lawyer, he said that gets you a PhD to unraveling corporate capture. He goes, and when he was speaking to Trump, trump told him I want to do that, like he wants that to be his legacy of unraveling the corporate capture that they have our government in, and so I think that's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1:

I mean, how could you be mad at a guy that wants to have his legacy that is basically unraveling corporate capture and helping America to become a healthy nation? How can you hear that and say you don't got my vote healthy? That's corporate capture.

Speaker 2:

Let them do what they want Right and him talking about. He wants to take the poison out of your food.

Speaker 1:

Out of the food that you probably have inside your cabinet right now, he wants to take that out and help you to live a longer, more prosperous life, and that there's companies out there that are intentionally poisoning you. How can you get mad after hearing a statement like that, that this is what we're trying to do for you?

Speaker 2:

And how can you want what the opposite is saying, which isn't?

Speaker 1:

much. They're probably not saying that at all because they're the ones poisoning you.

Speaker 2:

Right, they're saying a bunch of words that don't make sense and you're kind of left scratching your head like what is she going to do for our country, right?

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it's unfortunate because, being a Democrat, you know, and listening to kind of how she's talking, it doesn't seem like you're for the people, because the majority of what Kamala Harris is saying is it's a lot of we're not going back, or never back to Donald Trump, but you're not really actually talking to the people. And talking about this is what I'm going to do for you, this is what we're going to fix, this is what actually needs work, or what I have done before, and so when you really start to pay attention, you're not really getting very much and I think that's what's really disappointing to go on the flip side to actually talk about what that progress looks like, what exactly the problem is. Like I said, we're talking about taking poison out of your food. That's very specific. It's I can't beat around the bush talking about there may or may not. We're talking about removing poison from your food and making you a healthier person and a healthier nation. That's really profound.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So to be against something like that? It's like, what kind of person are you to hear someone say that and you're still voting for someone who's not saying anything like that at all?

Speaker 2:

Even just to get rid of the corruption in our government. Right, there's one candidate who's talking about it and one candidate that's not.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Like are you actually listening to what they have to say? Today was a big day for Kamala. She went finally, after what four, almost four years? She went to go visit the border today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's huge because we're seeing all of these reports about all of these undocumented immigrants. People are getting killed, people are getting raped. You know there's a lot more theft going on.

Speaker 2:

Well, the document came out today about there being 400 plus murders and people who have been convicted for murder and rape. When Biden took over office, at the border they changed the policy from catch and return to catch and release into our country. I find it very difficult that people want that, even just the debate. We sit here and we watch and feel that Trump is telling the truth and Kamala is just lying through her teeth, while people are sitting and watching, thinking Kamala's telling the truth about everything and Trump is lying. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a testament to just how and Candy talks about this just how polarized people are, because you can have it from completely different spectrums. You can literally walk into different people, like you said, and they're like whoa in their heart, in their mind, they believe that this person's telling the truth. This in their heart, in their mind, they believe that this person's telling the truth, this person's lying. So I just want to take a second and marvel at that, because that's a masterful plan. Like how do you have two people believing two completely different things?

Speaker 2:

Their realities.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, their reality is that somebody's lying here and I'm convinced it's this person. So you literally have two people pointing at each other. Kind of trip, right, that is crazy. Yeah, you literally have two people pointing at each other. Kind of trip, right, that is crazy. And so when you think about human programming, if you can get people to do that, how powerful is that? Like that's power. Oh for sure, you're both saying.

Speaker 2:

I believe you to be true, and this person is lying Because it's so polarized in that way that you can sit across somebody and they're Trump's such a liar and you're like Kamala is such a liar. If both of you guys come to the conclusion that one or the other is lying, should we not then point the finger back? Well, is my guy lying?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely yeah, and if you don't, you're a fool. You can't hear that and think that if it's possible that one of my guys is lying, yet I'm not going to accept the possibility that it could be my guy. What does that make of you? Right, that is wild.

Speaker 1:

You have to assume that, with where we are this day and age, if we're this polarized, one news station is saying something completely different than the other news station. It's a different world. You turn on the wrong channel and they're saying a completely different message and you're like wait, that didn't happen. That's not true. Somebody is clearly lying here. So, with where we're at right now I mean you and I have been talking about that You've got to really like start paying attention to what people are saying and what they're not saying. And what I hear Kamala saying a lot is we're not going back, not back to Trump, you're not saying much of anything. You're not saying much of anything. You're just kind of putting inside people's heads saying that we're just anything but that guy, which is almost putting people into a state of fear.

Speaker 2:

You're almost like hypnotizing them in a way with just keep saying those words and then it becomes a slow Anything but him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's a certain type of hypnosis. Yes, because now what you associate inside of your mind, you see a picture of Trump's face.

Speaker 2:

Oh, God, you don't want to go back.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going back. No, you know what, Ashley? No, we're good.

Speaker 2:

And I'm sure they're saying all these things. He's a racist. He wants to do a mass deportation. Don't we all kind of want a mass deportation for those who are doing criminal activities? How is that considered racist, right? But that's what they're pointing them out to look like when we talk about the border Right? So they want to put the race card on it, right? It's like wait, wait, wait. That's not the issue here. It's crazy how we're so polarized, yeah, right now. And I think we need to try to figure out is my guy lying to me? And look at the facts, I think about Trump. We got to dive into him. Is he lying? We all know there's corruption in our government. We all know that and that's what he's talking about. Even if you're going to vote for Kamala, you still think that there's corruption in our system.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. I think that's a fundamental, but is she?

Speaker 2:

talking about bringing it down Exactly, I hear a lot of, because Kamala is a female and she's a colored female. I hear a lot about that, but when you really dive into how they're voting when it comes to women's rights just the other day or last week they were voting on if a migrant rapes a female, for them to be deported All Republicans said yes, yes, deport the guy. If he rapes a female in our country, deport him. He should go back. And all the Democrats said no to that. All of them.

Speaker 1:

So basically, what you're saying is that if a migrant rapes a female in the United States, they don't have to go back. They can stay. They can stay here, yes, wow.

Speaker 2:

But when you think about her and you think about women's rights and they just voted against your women's right, that directly screws over a woman. Basically, they said we respect the migrant male rights over you more than more than the american women. Yeah, it's sad. That's a slap in the face they also voted no against not having men and women's sports. They also voted no for not allowing men and women's locker rooms. Like unanimous, democrats are saying no women, fuck your women's rights.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's really interesting, because.

Speaker 2:

So that's what I'm talking about is like, listen to what's being said, but where's the proof? Exactly what are they actually doing? And that's where you're going to figure out is my person lying to me or not? Right, find the proof in their words, and if that's what they believe, then their actions should show that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think it's tough because people you know, when you have your mind already made up for someone you're not thinking about, I need to search for more proof because you're taking it at face value. And so, whatever Kamala is saying, if you're a Kamala supporter, whatever she's saying, you're eating it up. You're not sitting there saying, hmm, do I have to fact check her on this? Do I have to double check this? I don't know if that is or is not true. You're not thinking like that. So same as Trump support.

Speaker 1:

So I think what the average person loses sight of is their objectivity. I look at everybody and say I think you're full of shit until you prove yourself innocent. Right, you have to because you don't know. And if you're going to get my vote, you're going to get my money and you're going to have influence. I'm going to look into you. And for people to just sit there and hear because of what they're saying on the news, because he may or may not have done something, I want to hear your interview, I want to hear your rally, I want to hear your policies, I want to hear what you say you're going to do for our country and I want to hear what you say you've done.

Speaker 2:

If you're saying you're going to do something, what have you done about that currently? Or in the past three years To show, or in the past three years, or Trump four years ago.

Speaker 1:

What?

Speaker 2:

did you do in regards of what you're saying you're going to do? Both of these people have had chances right. That's the thing that we need to use for our benefits is the fact that these people have track records, and we should go look at those track records and put it up against what they're saying.

Speaker 1:

Right, I agree, and I think it's like if you're talking about doing anything, if you don't have the track record for having success in that, then what are you talking about? It's the same for all of us with interviewing for a job. I'm not going into some sales job If I've been a mechanic all my life. You have no track record of that. Like, you need to know what you're talking about, what you're doing and this is how you're going to get it done, because in America that's just called being full of shit. Anybody, whether it's Trump, kamala, mr Kennedy, you have to look at them with a more of an objective type of view. You can't look at anything because we don't know. We don't know who's telling the truth and who's lying, so the only thing you do is you have to look into them. You're not blindly. I'm hearing what Mr Kennedy's saying and I'm still looking at what Kahn was saying At the time, I was still looking at what President Trump was saying

Speaker 1:

just to see what is everybody else hearing versus what's being said, and I think this is where so many people get duped and they get hypnotized and you start to really see just how bad it is out there. But there are some forces out there, even the media, and that's an episode for a different day. There are some forces out there that are making all this happen, that have us pointing the fingers at each other. One of us is looking like a fool and these guys are controlling that. They're creating this type of environment.

Speaker 2:

What do we have? 30-something days until Election Day. Yeah, I think it's exciting what they're doing, the fact that they're even sharing with us the people. That's huge. Who's going to be in these positions? I think that's going to be huge that we're going to know who the person is. They're probably going to be going around to the rallies. We're going to be able to know a little bit about them before they go into office. And you're almost when you vote for Trump, you're almost voting for their team.

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly, it's like do you like who these people are? Because, actually, for the first time, we're seeing who's going to be running this country. Yeah, and I don't think we ever really see that there's a bunch of goons that we have no idea who we're giving our tax money to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I want to put faces and names to who's going to be doing what, and that's what I tell people too. You've got to see who is behind the president Right, who is their team and what Kamala shows us. It is these big corporations. Exactly that is who she answers to. That is who she's doing the bidding for out here. It's obvious. You can see it. And then when you look at Trump and you have all these people talking and the things they're talking about and the committees are sitting in and the roundtable conversations that they're having, I mean they're putting them live.

Speaker 1:

They're being transparent. They're not going behind closed doors, right when we're not allowed into their conversations.

Speaker 2:

No, we are being allowed into these people's conversations. Yeah, they're putting them out there live. Today in Michigan, that whole thing was live. You can see it all. They're being transparent with this and that's the thing. Kamala can't even do. An interview.

Speaker 1:

That's scary, because I believe Kamala was actually out here I think it was last week and she did an interview with Oprah and they said it was just a one-on-one interview with Oprah. It was a private interview. Nobody else was allowed in there. So you're going to not disclose the location and nobody else is allowed in. Okay, well, how could I support you if I can't even show up and actually hear you and see what's going on in here? That should have people raising a lot of questions Like when's the last time you've been to a Kamala Harris rally? Why would she not be having them, I feel like with where she's at, why isn't she having more rallies? Why isn't she shaking hands with the people? It seems like all of her locations are all kind of hidden, or it's behind closed doors or it's.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people are saying that she sounds like she's scripted, like maybe she's kind of reading answers from a teleprompter, like are we able to interact with you and have unscripted a regular conversation, or do you think you're above us Exactly? And so if I'm a Democrat, you know, and I am a common supporter and she has been in my town, but all of a sudden, wait, but they didn't disclose the location Like that should have you raising, you know, an eyebrow, just saying why is that? You know she should be out there shaking hands and doing just as much as President Trump was doing. If she's working for us, if she's working for the people, she takes a sneak peek down at the border 34 days before the election For the first time.

Speaker 2:

For the first time, with everybody talking about how horrible this open border has been yeah, that's been all over social media as the borders are now you showed up. Is this you trying to get your vote?

Speaker 1:

And then you're talking about more fentanyl, and I know it's a fentanyl crisis out there, but we have a fentanyl and we have an immigration crisis and they're probably coming from the same place. So you're just now going out there a month before the election time, like this has been going on for a long time, and then she says we gotta what did she say we got to get some rules in place.

Speaker 2:

We got to get some rules in place here, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm like well, you think, you think we got hundreds of thousands of immigrants coming in. You changed the rules when you were elected.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you changed the rules, maybe we should go back to what they were before you changed them. Do you remember those Right? Oh man, my last thoughts here are it gives me hope. Hearing these statements that were made tonight by Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard gives me hope. I'm excited for the future. I hope that people start to wake up to the realization that what these people are talking about and what they're building here is new and it's going to be super beneficial for every single citizen. Why do we want anything different? But I just hope that people take the time to listen and really bring their voice and vote.

Speaker 1:

Vote early.

Speaker 2:

Yes, vote early yes.

Speaker 1:

Tulsi Abbott actually said the election is November 5th and so she was saying, you know, talking about there's some wonky weather that could be on the way. You know, we don't want to leave anything up to the actual election day. Get out, vote early, you know. Go with your friends, your family, cast your vote yeah.